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		<title>By: Jennifer Choi</title>
		<link>http://www.bombenglish.com/2008/03/17/8-why-koreans-should-love-science-fiction/comment-page-1/#comment-956</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Choi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello.  Iam the late 30&#039;s Korean femal listeners.   

This is my third time to hear your funny joyful talk show^^

Just by listening your talking, some of idea hit me and made me think of the reason why we don&#039;t have that spectacular SF program on TV.   Even if it&#039;s just a guess, I hope it can help your to understanding below reason in the point of mine. 

I am a big fan of &quot;Lord of the Ring&quot;, one of my top 5 movies I&#039;ve ever seen by now. 

I think our society couldn&#039;t have time to cultivate the concept of the universe by now.  Only it have been past
less than a hundred years after we face with western science culture.  During the long 5 hundred years of Chosun Dynaty&#039;s seizure of political power, they ruled the Korean people with Confucianism.   The political power of them result in cutting the root of dreaming idea of future with an obscurantist policy.  For an example, the Confucianist didn&#039;t welcome the invention of Hangul because they thought they didn&#039;t hope and need to cultivate their people learn the writing and reading in Character.   So the genius lower class of society who had possibility to dream the widen world couldn&#039;t have chance to open their dream as well as the higher class were prohibited by the force of their society&#039;s brainwashing restraint. 

Although we aren&#039;t ruled by that kind of government, but it still have infulence to our national character I guess.  I assumed most of common person couldn&#039;t over the line within the pressure from inner and outer forcement living with them. 

Once or several time I had seen Star Track from AFKN, the US Army Broadcast system  as a teenaged little girl
Because I was a maniac of TV program.  After closing of Korean TV, only I can see the movie in AFKN after a old man&#039;s talk show around 2 or 3 am.   It was so curious but I couldn&#039;t understand any words so I just watched that late night movie with the acting from their nonverbal cues.  ^^; some of them I found it assumable, I could saw them with my loose surmise. 

The second reason I thought is the Korean&#039;s delayed advancement of Broadcasting system.  They don&#039;t have any intest to invest so much money and riskable challenge to those huge project involed with the larger staff. 

Your Star Track chatting remind me a bood of title &quot;Cosmos&quot;, a scientific nonfiction novel that mentioned about the universe origin or process of scientific notion and theory I had never been contact at that time.  Have you heard about it? 

Anyway I&#039;d love to see some SF drama or movie as a great lover of SF and imagible story in Korea, too. 

Great Talk! and I enjoyed the whole listening.  

Have fun and see you next time. ^^;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello.  Iam the late 30&#8242;s Korean femal listeners.   </p>
<p>This is my third time to hear your funny joyful talk show^^</p>
<p>Just by listening your talking, some of idea hit me and made me think of the reason why we don&#8217;t have that spectacular SF program on TV.   Even if it&#8217;s just a guess, I hope it can help your to understanding below reason in the point of mine. </p>
<p>I am a big fan of &#8220;Lord of the Ring&#8221;, one of my top 5 movies I&#8217;ve ever seen by now. </p>
<p>I think our society couldn&#8217;t have time to cultivate the concept of the universe by now.  Only it have been past<br />
less than a hundred years after we face with western science culture.  During the long 5 hundred years of Chosun Dynaty&#8217;s seizure of political power, they ruled the Korean people with Confucianism.   The political power of them result in cutting the root of dreaming idea of future with an obscurantist policy.  For an example, the Confucianist didn&#8217;t welcome the invention of Hangul because they thought they didn&#8217;t hope and need to cultivate their people learn the writing and reading in Character.   So the genius lower class of society who had possibility to dream the widen world couldn&#8217;t have chance to open their dream as well as the higher class were prohibited by the force of their society&#8217;s brainwashing restraint. </p>
<p>Although we aren&#8217;t ruled by that kind of government, but it still have infulence to our national character I guess.  I assumed most of common person couldn&#8217;t over the line within the pressure from inner and outer forcement living with them. </p>
<p>Once or several time I had seen Star Track from AFKN, the US Army Broadcast system  as a teenaged little girl<br />
Because I was a maniac of TV program.  After closing of Korean TV, only I can see the movie in AFKN after a old man&#8217;s talk show around 2 or 3 am.   It was so curious but I couldn&#8217;t understand any words so I just watched that late night movie with the acting from their nonverbal cues.  ^^; some of them I found it assumable, I could saw them with my loose surmise. </p>
<p>The second reason I thought is the Korean&#8217;s delayed advancement of Broadcasting system.  They don&#8217;t have any intest to invest so much money and riskable challenge to those huge project involed with the larger staff. </p>
<p>Your Star Track chatting remind me a bood of title &#8220;Cosmos&#8221;, a scientific nonfiction novel that mentioned about the universe origin or process of scientific notion and theory I had never been contact at that time.  Have you heard about it? </p>
<p>Anyway I&#8217;d love to see some SF drama or movie as a great lover of SF and imagible story in Korea, too. </p>
<p>Great Talk! and I enjoyed the whole listening.  </p>
<p>Have fun and see you next time. ^^;</p>
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		<title>By: Javis</title>
		<link>http://www.bombenglish.com/2008/03/17/8-why-koreans-should-love-science-fiction/comment-page-1/#comment-543</link>
		<dc:creator>Javis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And about Save the Green Planet, I actually first read a review of the film on an English language blog about cyberpunk anyway, so I can appreciate its cult status.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And about Save the Green Planet, I actually first read a review of the film on an English language blog about cyberpunk anyway, so I can appreciate its cult status.</p>
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		<title>By: Javis</title>
		<link>http://www.bombenglish.com/2008/03/17/8-why-koreans-should-love-science-fiction/comment-page-1/#comment-542</link>
		<dc:creator>Javis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe industrial and post-industrial are better labels for what I was trying to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe industrial and post-industrial are better labels for what I was trying to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Javis</title>
		<link>http://www.bombenglish.com/2008/03/17/8-why-koreans-should-love-science-fiction/comment-page-1/#comment-538</link>
		<dc:creator>Javis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry, I did finish listening to to podcast ;)

I agree with a lot of what you guys said about the potential benefit from Sci-fi in Korean society.  I wonder if 이소연 would have received a more enthusiastic treatment in a Korea where science fiction was popular.  I recently told a Korean friend that I read a lot of sci-fi, and he had a grimace on his face as he told me of how his mother&#039;s profession as a school biology teacher had turned him off to science.

The modern/post-modern thing was just in response to something I had read in Michael&#039;s blog.  We&#039;ll call it the difference between unbounded enthusiasm for progress, like the Nazi&#039;s eugenics or &quot;From the Earth to the Moon&quot;, and caution and introspection with respect to potential mistakes resulting from that progress, like the Non-Proliferation Treaty or &quot;Speakers for the Dead&quot;.  I guess it&#039;s not a very important distinction for the genre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry, I did finish listening to to podcast <img src='http://www.bombenglish.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I agree with a lot of what you guys said about the potential benefit from Sci-fi in Korean society.  I wonder if 이소연 would have received a more enthusiastic treatment in a Korea where science fiction was popular.  I recently told a Korean friend that I read a lot of sci-fi, and he had a grimace on his face as he told me of how his mother&#8217;s profession as a school biology teacher had turned him off to science.</p>
<p>The modern/post-modern thing was just in response to something I had read in Michael&#8217;s blog.  We&#8217;ll call it the difference between unbounded enthusiasm for progress, like the Nazi&#8217;s eugenics or &#8220;From the Earth to the Moon&#8221;, and caution and introspection with respect to potential mistakes resulting from that progress, like the Non-Proliferation Treaty or &#8220;Speakers for the Dead&#8221;.  I guess it&#8217;s not a very important distinction for the genre.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.bombenglish.com/2008/03/17/8-why-koreans-should-love-science-fiction/comment-page-1/#comment-537</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you listen to the episode, because we didn&#039;t really address the idea of sci-fi as modern vs. postmodern . . . but how are you defining the terms?
I don&#039;t think 지구를 지켜라 really did get much mainstream exposure.  It left theaters remarkably quickly and is pretty much considered a 마니아 (cult) film.  A shame, it&#039;s a fabulous film.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you listen to the episode, because we didn&#8217;t really address the idea of sci-fi as modern vs. postmodern . . . but how are you defining the terms?<br />
I don&#8217;t think 지구를 지켜라 really did get much mainstream exposure.  It left theaters remarkably quickly and is pretty much considered a 마니아 (cult) film.  A shame, it&#8217;s a fabulous film.</p>
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		<title>By: Javis</title>
		<link>http://www.bombenglish.com/2008/03/17/8-why-koreans-should-love-science-fiction/comment-page-1/#comment-533</link>
		<dc:creator>Javis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m posting this before listening to the lesson, but I just read Michael&#039;s blog posts about Star Trek and BSG.  I think it&#039;s a little simplistic to classify all sci-fi as post-modern.  For example, Asimov&#039;s early work, with its themes of technological determinism, are quite modern.  Also, the Foundation and Empire novels were reflections more of historical models than the present day (i.e. Foundation = fall of the Roman Empire; The Stars, Like Dust = Golden Horde in Russia)

Anyway, have you watched &#039;지구를 지켜라&#039;? It may be the first work of Korean post-modern sci-fi that gained mainstream exposure.  It blends themes of dissatisfaction with Korea&#039;s rapid development and distrust of the establishment with fear of the alien outsider.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m posting this before listening to the lesson, but I just read Michael&#8217;s blog posts about Star Trek and BSG.  I think it&#8217;s a little simplistic to classify all sci-fi as post-modern.  For example, Asimov&#8217;s early work, with its themes of technological determinism, are quite modern.  Also, the Foundation and Empire novels were reflections more of historical models than the present day (i.e. Foundation = fall of the Roman Empire; The Stars, Like Dust = Golden Horde in Russia)</p>
<p>Anyway, have you watched &#8216;지구를 지켜라&#8217;? It may be the first work of Korean post-modern sci-fi that gained mainstream exposure.  It blends themes of dissatisfaction with Korea&#8217;s rapid development and distrust of the establishment with fear of the alien outsider.</p>
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		<title>By: Kinsey</title>
		<link>http://www.bombenglish.com/2008/03/17/8-why-koreans-should-love-science-fiction/comment-page-1/#comment-472</link>
		<dc:creator>Kinsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 05:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I said I agreed with you. In fact, I said I *completely* agreed with you, and you called me bitter. I said DS9 was one of the better Star Trek series, and you called me partisan. (I&#039;m a big fan of both btw.) I said that the ideas that DS9 took from B5 quickly fizzled out and went nowhere (meaning they never became an important part of DS9), and you claimed I said it &quot;stole all its plotlines from there&quot;. I agree with 90% of everything you&#039;ve said in your comments.

The point of my first comment was just to introduce myself and contribute a bit to the discussion. It was a very good episode. I liked it and have no complaints. I can&#039;t really add useful comments to the other (interesting and enjoyable) episodes I&#039;ve heard so far, since I know so little about Korea

Just to clarify on 24, I don&#039;t know if it had an effect or not. It&#039;s not my idea. I ran into it recently on the Internet and thought it worth mentioning. Anyway, it never occurred to me that non-positive portrayals would sway voters. When I saw that we were starting out with different assumptions, I clarified what I meant. I wasn&#039;t changing the meaning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said I agreed with you. In fact, I said I *completely* agreed with you, and you called me bitter. I said DS9 was one of the better Star Trek series, and you called me partisan. (I&#8217;m a big fan of both btw.) I said that the ideas that DS9 took from B5 quickly fizzled out and went nowhere (meaning they never became an important part of DS9), and you claimed I said it &#8220;stole all its plotlines from there&#8221;. I agree with 90% of everything you&#8217;ve said in your comments.</p>
<p>The point of my first comment was just to introduce myself and contribute a bit to the discussion. It was a very good episode. I liked it and have no complaints. I can&#8217;t really add useful comments to the other (interesting and enjoyable) episodes I&#8217;ve heard so far, since I know so little about Korea</p>
<p>Just to clarify on 24, I don&#8217;t know if it had an effect or not. It&#8217;s not my idea. I ran into it recently on the Internet and thought it worth mentioning. Anyway, it never occurred to me that non-positive portrayals would sway voters. When I saw that we were starting out with different assumptions, I clarified what I meant. I wasn&#8217;t changing the meaning.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.bombenglish.com/2008/03/17/8-why-koreans-should-love-science-fiction/comment-page-1/#comment-467</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 01:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I really don&#039;t want to get into it with a bitter B5 fan.  If you think it copied B5, and stole all its plotlines from there, fine.  Enjoy.
Yes, you did say &quot;positive&quot;.  In your third post.  So it seems a little disingenuous to say I missed a point you didn&#039;t originally make.  And I still stand by the fact that there have been many, many portrayals of black leadership both as president and otherwise prior to 24.  This doesn&#039;t mean I don&#039;t think that 24 couldn&#039;t be havng an effect, but it is a little late to the party and I think other media portrayals were probably more significant.  On the other hand, if you&#039;d brought up &quot;Commander in Chief&quot; I would have been a little more understanding in how it relates to women&#039;s leadership and Hillary&#039;s chances, partially because the makers of that show were specific in that being one of their goals.
Maybe what we can learn from this conversation is that we&#039;re all partisans of our own programs.  There&#039;s DS9 fans, B5 fans (not exclusive categories, by the way) and those who wouldn&#039;t miss 24, and the die hard CSI fan.  We all tend to see wider influence in society of those things which have influenced us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I really don&#8217;t want to get into it with a bitter B5 fan.  If you think it copied B5, and stole all its plotlines from there, fine.  Enjoy.<br />
Yes, you did say &#8220;positive&#8221;.  In your third post.  So it seems a little disingenuous to say I missed a point you didn&#8217;t originally make.  And I still stand by the fact that there have been many, many portrayals of black leadership both as president and otherwise prior to 24.  This doesn&#8217;t mean I don&#8217;t think that 24 couldn&#8217;t be havng an effect, but it is a little late to the party and I think other media portrayals were probably more significant.  On the other hand, if you&#8217;d brought up &#8220;Commander in Chief&#8221; I would have been a little more understanding in how it relates to women&#8217;s leadership and Hillary&#8217;s chances, partially because the makers of that show were specific in that being one of their goals.<br />
Maybe what we can learn from this conversation is that we&#8217;re all partisans of our own programs.  There&#8217;s DS9 fans, B5 fans (not exclusive categories, by the way) and those who wouldn&#8217;t miss 24, and the die hard CSI fan.  We all tend to see wider influence in society of those things which have influenced us.</p>
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		<title>By: Kinsey</title>
		<link>http://www.bombenglish.com/2008/03/17/8-why-koreans-should-love-science-fiction/comment-page-1/#comment-465</link>
		<dc:creator>Kinsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, yes, I completely agree. DS9 came up with the space station premise completely independently of B5, and it was very different, so much so that most of the ideas it tried to steal from B5 ended up fizzling and going nowhere. DS9 was one of the better Star Trek series IMHO.

GI Joe and He-Man had very similar formulas in different settings.

I&#039;ve really got to see Plato&#039;s Stepchildren again, but didn&#039;t Nurse Chapel end up giving birth to a child that was one quarter Vulcan? How do you explain that? (kidding)

The 24 reference I made was just a little parenthetical remark I threw in, because I thought it was interesting and sort of related to what you said about Janeway. Having said that, I have to disagree with &quot;Nobody said anything about a positive portrayal&quot;, because I did. That was my whole point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yes, I completely agree. DS9 came up with the space station premise completely independently of B5, and it was very different, so much so that most of the ideas it tried to steal from B5 ended up fizzling and going nowhere. DS9 was one of the better Star Trek series IMHO.</p>
<p>GI Joe and He-Man had very similar formulas in different settings.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve really got to see Plato&#8217;s Stepchildren again, but didn&#8217;t Nurse Chapel end up giving birth to a child that was one quarter Vulcan? How do you explain that? (kidding)</p>
<p>The 24 reference I made was just a little parenthetical remark I threw in, because I thought it was interesting and sort of related to what you said about Janeway. Having said that, I have to disagree with &#8220;Nobody said anything about a positive portrayal&#8221;, because I did. That was my whole point.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.bombenglish.com/2008/03/17/8-why-koreans-should-love-science-fiction/comment-page-1/#comment-462</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 00:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Plato&#039;s Stepchildren - you can interpret what was shown in any way you like, but what was shown is that immediately after the kiss, Spock and Kirk are forced to pick up weapons and threaten Ohura and Chapel.  You can say you think it symbolically represents rape if you like, but the actuality of what&#039;s shown doesn&#039;t support it.  
Glad you&#039;re enjoying the podcasts, keep listening!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Plato&#8217;s Stepchildren &#8211; you can interpret what was shown in any way you like, but what was shown is that immediately after the kiss, Spock and Kirk are forced to pick up weapons and threaten Ohura and Chapel.  You can say you think it symbolically represents rape if you like, but the actuality of what&#8217;s shown doesn&#8217;t support it.<br />
Glad you&#8217;re enjoying the podcasts, keep listening!</p>
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